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Pak uses US aid to prepare for war against India, says Obama

Obama has said something that people in the Bush administration were saying in hushed voice, if at all. And something that India has been saying for ages! That Pakistan has been using the aid provided to it to prepare for war against India. They used it in 1965 and 1971 and got punished, and they used stringer missiles in Kargil – by providing those missiles to the “jehadis” and now they are ostensibly using the aid worth billions to prepare for another war… while the country itself falls apart.

“We are providing them military aid without having enough strings attached. So they’re using the military aid that we use – they’re not, to Pakistan, they’re preparing for a war against India,” Obama told O’Reilly, the conservative TV host.

Obama has suggested that his administration may go into Pakistani territory to target the extremists. Obama has lived in Pakistan during Zia ul Haq’s times with his mother. He was pretty firm while replying to O’Reilly…

O’Reilly: “So you’re going to pull it out and let the Islamic fundamentalists take them over?”

Obama: “No, no, no, no. What we say is, look, we’re going to provide them with additional military support, targeted at terrorists, and we’re going to help build their democracy and provide …”

O’Reilly: “He’s doing that now. Funds over there, and he’s doing that.”

Obama: “That is not what we’ve been doing, Bill. We’ve wasted $10 billion with Musharraf without holding them accountable for knocking out those safe havens… We can’t – we can’t have – and nobody talked about some full-blown invasion of Pakistan, but the simple point that I made was we’ve got to put more pressure on Pakistan to do what they need to do”

What do you think? I believe, given the situation on the ground, that a war between India and Pakistan is just around the corner. Remember, for wars between the two country, situations are created – not because of their urgency but because the Pakistani Army feels it has an opportunity or wants the public to concentrate on something else. As we speak, I have a strong hunch that the Jehadi heads in Pakistan Army are preparing their blueprints.

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  1. and here is something that truthful people in India were saying but you ignore vehemently or violently

    ” was mercilessly tortured in prison. I was constantly told that if I had not become a Muslim and had remained a Hindu I would not have been beaten like this’, he says.”

    http://indianmuslims.in/terrif

  2. And how is this thing related to Indo-Pak relations and Obama?

    As far as I am concerned, the truth on both the sides – Indian administration and for these activists is half way. Both say somethings correct and somethings are exaggerations. The reason why most in the country do not support the activists is because those who ACTUALLY bomb, are really no different from these who allege that they have been just tortured! So, there is no scientific way to even ascertain who within the community is a terrorist and who is not. The day there is a mechanism to find that out.. things will be better. This is the ugly face of terrorism.

  3. And this is the ugly face of indian police and the muslim witch hunt:

    An Encounter With The Terror Police BY SANDEEP PANDEY

    SHAHBAZ HUSSAIN, 32, alleged Jaipur blasts suspect, alleged SIMI activist, was arrested after midnight on August 29 from the house of his father-in-law, Abdul Moid, in Lucknow where he lived with his wife and three children. As my wife Arundhati and I later learned, about 50 personnel from the Rajasthan Police and the Uttar Pradesh Anti-Terrorism Squad (ATS) had raided the house. Their primary object seemed to have been to confiscate all the literature they could find. Everything, including newspapers, even a cheque in the name of Zyna Computers, a training centre Shahbaz used to run. They also took Rs 1,000 from the purse of Shadaf, Shahbaz’s wife.

    The next day, we got a call from Shahbaz’s brother-in-law, telling us the ATS was back and was forcing Moid to sign blank sheets of paper. We rushed there. I asked the officer in charge, Sangram Singh, Deputy Superintendent of the Rajasthan Police, why they were doing this. We were told they wanted to transfer rough maps of the shop and house they had drawn to the papers Moid had signed. Since there were only two maps, we asked what they wanted with the third sheet. They wouldn’t say. I then asked whether Moid could be given a copy, and was told it would be no problem; it was then suggested we collect the drawings in a couple of hours from the ATS office, where the copies would be made. We did as asked. When we reached the ATS office, however, we were told Sangram Singh was away. We waited for some time in the hope that he would return. And then I spotted one man who had accompanied the team in the afternoon for the search operation. So I told him that we have come to get the copy of those maps, which were to be drawn on the blank sheets of paper on which Abdul Moid’s signatures were taken. Could we have those copies? He said no. They were with the officer from Rajasthan and you will have to wait for him. We didn’t know how long that wait would take and so we moved out of the office. I thought I will try to speak to the officer-in-charge; a gentleman in plain clothes met us, but unfortunately I did not get his name. When, while telling him our story, I mentioned the missing Rs 1,000, he went wild, and said we were accusing the police of theft. Matters worsened after this. Finally, he had his men literally throw us off the premises.

    The question that comes to me after this is about the ATS, supposedly a very professional service, specially created to counter terrorism. They had already searched Shahbaz’s office and his father-in-law’s house. What, then, was the need for the second searches? The only conclusion is that they could not find anything the first time.

    IWAS SHOCKED to read in The Indian Express that the ATS had retrieved integrated chips and the circuits of a bomb resembling the device used in Surat. When I checked with Moid, he said there was no such thing at the office or at their home. But there is no way he can prove that now, thanks to the investigating team having not made any search memo, a duly witnessed copy of which should have been given to Moid. Again, for a supposedly professional unit, this was in gross violation of all legal protocol.

    Muslims across the country have long been saying what other communities, including the mainstream Hindu, are now increasingly beginning to suspect: whatever the media tell us is happening is not based on facts. A pattern in the terror arrests made in Uttar Pradesh: in most of these, the suspect has been arrested from his home, and later been shown to have been arrested from elsewhere.

    Again, as reports by human rights organisations show, many of those arrested have no criminal background whatsoever, let alone a history of bearing cross-community ill-well. All of them, in fact, are very young people, and it is highly unlikely that they would be involved in activities of such nature.

    http://www.tehelka.com/story_m

  4. And how is this thing related to Indo-Pak relations and Obama?

    As far as I am concerned, the truth on both the sides – Indian administration and for these activists is half way. Both say somethings correct and somethings are exaggerations. The reason why most in the country do not support the activists is because those who ACTUALLY bomb, are really no different from these who allege that they have been just tortured! So, there is no scientific way to even ascertain who within the community is a terrorist and who is not. The day there is a mechanism to find that out.. things will be better. This is the ugly face of terrorism.

  5. And this is the ugly face of indian police and the muslim witch hunt:

    An Encounter With The Terror Police BY SANDEEP PANDEY

    SHAHBAZ HUSSAIN, 32, alleged Jaipur blasts suspect, alleged SIMI activist, was arrested after midnight on August 29 from the house of his father-in-law, Abdul Moid, in Lucknow where he lived with his wife and three children. As my wife Arundhati and I later learned, about 50 personnel from the Rajasthan Police and the Uttar Pradesh Anti-Terrorism Squad (ATS) had raided the house. Their primary object seemed to have been to confiscate all the literature they could find. Everything, including newspapers, even a cheque in the name of Zyna Computers, a training centre Shahbaz used to run. They also took Rs 1,000 from the purse of Shadaf, Shahbaz’s wife.

    The next day, we got a call from Shahbaz’s brother-in-law, telling us the ATS was back and was forcing Moid to sign blank sheets of paper. We rushed there. I asked the officer in charge, Sangram Singh, Deputy Superintendent of the Rajasthan Police, why they were doing this. We were told they wanted to transfer rough maps of the shop and house they had drawn to the papers Moid had signed. Since there were only two maps, we asked what they wanted with the third sheet. They wouldn’t say. I then asked whether Moid could be given a copy, and was told it would be no problem; it was then suggested we collect the drawings in a couple of hours from the ATS office, where the copies would be made. We did as asked. When we reached the ATS office, however, we were told Sangram Singh was away. We waited for some time in the hope that he would return. And then I spotted one man who had accompanied the team in the afternoon for the search operation. So I told him that we have come to get the copy of those maps, which were to be drawn on the blank sheets of paper on which Abdul Moid’s signatures were taken. Could we have those copies? He said no. They were with the officer from Rajasthan and you will have to wait for him. We didn’t know how long that wait would take and so we moved out of the office. I thought I will try to speak to the officer-in-charge; a gentleman in plain clothes met us, but unfortunately I did not get his name. When, while telling him our story, I mentioned the missing Rs 1,000, he went wild, and said we were accusing the police of theft. Matters worsened after this. Finally, he had his men literally throw us off the premises.

    The question that comes to me after this is about the ATS, supposedly a very professional service, specially created to counter terrorism. They had already searched Shahbaz’s office and his father-in-law’s house. What, then, was the need for the second searches? The only conclusion is that they could not find anything the first time.

    IWAS SHOCKED to read in The Indian Express that the ATS had retrieved integrated chips and the circuits of a bomb resembling the device used in Surat. When I checked with Moid, he said there was no such thing at the office or at their home. But there is no way he can prove that now, thanks to the investigating team having not made any search memo, a duly witnessed copy of which should have been given to Moid. Again, for a supposedly professional unit, this was in gross violation of all legal protocol.

    Muslims across the country have long been saying what other communities, including the mainstream Hindu, are now increasingly beginning to suspect: whatever the media tell us is happening is not based on facts. A pattern in the terror arrests made in Uttar Pradesh: in most of these, the suspect has been arrested from his home, and later been shown to have been arrested from elsewhere.

    Again, as reports by human rights organisations show, many of those arrested have no criminal background whatsoever, let alone a history of bearing cross-community ill-well. All of them, in fact, are very young people, and it is highly unlikely that they would be involved in activities of such nature.

    http://www.tehelka.com/story_main40.asp?filename=Ne130908AnEncounter.asp

  6. All of these stories come out in the “Pseudo-secular” press once any terrorist attack is done and people are arrested! Heck even people like Bitta Karate and Yasin Malik were made out to be innocent and freed from the jails!

    Like I said earlier.. I completely back the administration in its exercise for they know what they are doing.. In some cases they will make errors and in some cases they will be high-handed.. but to suggest that the ENTIRE Indian system is against the Muslims is UTTER and BLATANT nonsense!

    In fact, the system actually backs them up! So, I will not pay much attention to these stories.. as most of these are clearly and blatantly motivated!

    Citing Tehelka is like citing a tabloid!… its sensationalist journalism which goes hand in hand with the communist and jehadi agenda!

  7. All of these stories come out in the “Pseudo-secular” press once any terrorist attack is done and people are arrested! Heck even people like Bitta Karate and Yasin Malik were made out to be innocent and freed from the jails!

    Like I said earlier.. I completely back the administration in its exercise for they know what they are doing.. In some cases they will make errors and in some cases they will be high-handed.. but to suggest that the ENTIRE Indian system is against the Muslims is UTTER and BLATANT nonsense!

    In fact, the system actually backs them up! So, I will not pay much attention to these stories.. as most of these are clearly and blatantly motivated!

    Citing Tehelka is like citing a tabloid!… its sensationalist journalism which goes hand in hand with the communist and jehadi agenda!

  8. immerse deeper your head in the sand, until it explode into your face,then you will know.

    Btw, none said the entire exercise is against muslims and may I remind you that Sandeep Pandey is a Magasasay award winner?

  9. immerse deeper your head in the sand, until it explode into your face,then you will know.

    Btw, none said the entire exercise is against muslims and may I remind you that Sandeep Pandey is a Magasasay award winner?

  10. And I also COMPLETELY remember that this is the same guy who extols and rubs shoulders with the Naxalites who blow up bridges, kill ordinary men and women to give voice to their frustration! People who think that killing others for an injustice is the best way to life!

    It, therefore, does not come as a surprise that this guy Pandey is batting to give “ground cover” to another source of terrorism – he has been a terrorism supporter in a clandestine fashion anyways ((terrorists activities of Naxalites)

    So, I know EXACTLY what company you keep as well! It is the same shitty Jehadi mentality on view.

    You are just a frustrated communist who cannot find anything better to do anyways. You don’t even have the bloody balls to even write under your own name… Far from putting my head in sand, it is people like YOU who think that by clandestinely promoting terrorism and helping their cause, India could be made a better place! Shame on you.

  11. And I also COMPLETELY remember that this is the same guy who extols and rubs shoulders with the Naxalites who blow up bridges, kill ordinary men and women to give voice to their frustration! People who think that killing others for an injustice is the best way to life!

    It, therefore, does not come as a surprise that this guy Pandey is batting to give “ground cover” to another source of terrorism – he has been a terrorism supporter in a clandestine fashion anyways ((terrorists activities of Naxalites)

    So, I know EXACTLY what company you keep as well! It is the same shitty Jehadi mentality on view.

    You are just a frustrated communist who cannot find anything better to do anyways. You don’t even have the bloody balls to even write under your own name… Far from putting my head in sand, it is people like YOU who think that by clandestinely promoting terrorism and helping their cause, India could be made a better place! Shame on you.

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