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The Real Gandhi: Schizophrenic and a Sadist

Gandhi was a schizophrenic at best and a crazy guy at worst. He was shrewd and knew how to get his work done and get his way without ever taking any responsibility for any decision. I want to bring here some quotes from books, people and Gandhi himself which make it clear as to what I just said.

Jews, Hitler and Palestine

“But the German persecution of the Jews seems to have no parallel in history. The tyrants of old never went so mad as Hitler seems to have gone. And he is doing it with religious zeal. For he is propounding a new religion of exclusive and militant nationalism in the name of which many inhumanity becomes an act of humanity to be rewarded here and hereafter. The crime of an obviously mad but intrepid youth is being visited upon his whole race with unbelievable ferocity. If there ever could be a justifiable war in the name of and for humanity, a war against Germany, to prevent the wanton persecution of a whole race, would be completely justified. But I do not believe in any war. A discussion of the pros and cons of such a war is therefore outside my horizon or province. “

Article that Appeared in Harijan on November 26, 1938 (Source: Gandhi on Jews)

Then he writes a letter to Hitler in 1941 to say:[1]

“Nor do I believe that you are the monster described by your opponents.”

But what surprises one is the prescription his gives then to the Jews later on.

I mentioned the subject to Gandhi in 1946 when Hitler was dead. “Hitler,” Gandhi said, “killed five million Jews. It is the greatest crime of our time. But the Jews should have offered themselves to the butcher’s knife. They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs… It would have aroused the world and the people of Germany… As it is they succumbed anyway in their millions.”


Remember what he says about the Jews’ claim to Palestine vs that of Arabs in the first quote above? Now, here he turns around to say:

I told Sidney Silverman, the British M.P., that the Jews have a good case. If the Arabs have a claim to Palestine, the Jews have a prior claim because they were there first.

Advise to the British on Hitler and Mussolini

Of course, his non-violence somehow always gave the Violent a “free run” and Victim was left to do the sacrifice:[1]

In 1940, when the British Isles appeared to be on the verge of invasion by the Axis powers, Gandhi offered the following advice to the people of England: “I would like you to lay down the arms you have as being useless for saving you or humanity. You will invite Herr Hitler and Signor Mussolini to take what they want of the countries you call your possessions. … If these gentlemen choose to occupy your homes, you will vacate them. If they do not give you free passage out, you will allow yourselves, man, woman, and child, to be slaughtered, but you will refuse to owe allegiance to them.”

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Gandhi on the British Empire in 1914:

“When Gandhi left South Africa, he still believed in the British empire. though tentatively. “Though Empires have gone and fallen, this empire may perhaps be an exception….it is an empire not founded on material but on spiritual foundations….the British constitution. Tear away those ideals and you tear away my loyalty to the British constitution; keep those ideals and I am ever a bondsman”.

(Source: Martin Green, Gandhi: Voice of a New Age Revolutionary, p. 208)

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OKAYYY… WTF was that? Spiritual Foundation?? British Empire on Spiritual Foundation???

Gandhi on Wars by Britain.

Now remember he was a non-violent man – or so we are supposed to believe. And WAR.. is a specialized kind of violence… right? So, this is how he supports the British Wars:

“To return to London in wartime: Gandhi quickly raised his ambulance corps amongst the Indians in England. As before, he had offered his volunteers for any kind of military duty, but the authorities preferred medical workers”……. “Many of his friends did not approve the project. Olive Schreiner, who was in London, wrote him that she was struck to the heart with sorrow to hear that he had offered to serve the English government in this evil war – this wicked cause”.

(Source: Martin Green, Gandhi: Voice of a New Age Revolutionary, p. 247)

And no, it was not always entirely for the “peace loving/humanitarian” causes of medical duty etc. Here is what he did in 1915 on his return to India. He kept organizing “War Recruitment Melas” during those days.

“Gandhi himself had twice volunteered for service in this war, in France and in Mesopotamia, because he had convinced himself that he owed the empire that sacrifice in return for it’s military protection.”

(Source: Martin Green, Gandhi: Voice of a New Age Revolutionary, p. 267)

“Military protection”??? Protection of whom or what?? Were the Brits protecting their ASSETS in India or the Indians? Do we even get the height of Gandhian nonsense?

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Chaura-Chauri

However, his non-violent streak always awoke, as we have remarkably noticed… when the Victim gets hit and retaliates against the Violent. Here is Gandhi’s quote after Chaura Chauri.

God has been abundantly kind to me. He has warned me the third time that there is not yet in India that truthful and non-violent atmosphere which and which alone can justify mass disobedience….which means gentle, truthful, humble, knowing, never criminal and hateful. He warned me in 1919 when the Rowlatt Act agitation was started. Ahmedabad, Viramgam, and Kheda erred. Amritsar and Kasur erred. I retraced my steps, called it a Himalayan miscalculation, humbled myself before God and man, and stopped not merely mass civil disobedience but even my own which I knew to be civil and non-violent” .

(Source: Collected Works, vol. 22, p.415-21)

Did you notice how he brings in God… and professes how his words are somehow “sanctioned” by God? May so-called Saints, Prophets and God-men have used this “sanction” to perpetuate violence, abuse, and subjugation on people over the centuries. No wonder Gandhi has this aura of a “God-man”.

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To this Subhash Bose had retorted:

“To sound the order of retreat just when public enthusiasm was reaching the boiling point was nothing short of a national calamity. The principal lieutenants of the Mahatma, Deshbandhu Das, Pandit Motilal Nehru and Lala Lajpat Rai, who were all in prison, shared the popular resentment. I was with the Deshbandu at the time, and I could see that he was beside himself with anger and sorrow.”

(Source: The Indian Struggle, p.90)

Gandhi on Bhagat Singh/Sukhdev/Rajguru hanging

“The government certainly had the right to hang these men. However, there are some rights which do credit to those who possess them only if they are enjoyed in name only.”

(Source: Collected Works, vol. 45, p.359-61, in Gujarati)

First sentence is obvious in its meaning. In the second sentence, he appears to be defending the RIGHT of British to use the “Authority” they have being an imperial power. Otherwise, he argues, it will be a “power in name only”! Excuse me, but nothing in my reading of Indian history and no other political figure has as much nauseated as Gandhi with this quote justifying the hangings of Bhagat Singh/Sukhdev/Rajguru!!

And…. then the TURNAROUND.. after the hanging on March 23, 1931.

Bhagat Singh and his two associates have been hanged. The Congress made many attempts to save their lives and the Government entertained many hopes of it, but all has been in a vain.

Bhagat Singh did not wish to live. He refused to apologize, or even file an appeal. Bhagat Singh was not a devotee of non-violence, but he did not subscribe to the religion of violence. He took to violence due to helplessness and to defend his homeland. In his last letter, Bhagat Singh wrote –” I have been arrested while waging a war. For me there can be no gallows. Put me into the mouth of a cannon and blow me off.” These heroes had conquered the fear of death. Let us bow to them a thousand times for their heroism.

But we should not imitate their act. In our land of millions of destitute and crippled people, if we take to the practice of seeking justice through murder, there will be a terrifying situation. Our poor people will become victims of our atrocities. By making a dharma of violence, we shall be reaping the fruit of our own actions.

Hence, though we praise the courage of these brave men, we should never countenance their activities. Our dharma is to swallow our anger, abide by the discipline of non-violence and carry out our duty.

Gandhi’s article in Young India March 29, 1931

Ok, so can the REAL Gandhi please stand up??

Do you see the complete turnarounds and schizophrenic personality?

Reference Links:

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17 thoughts on “The Real Gandhi: Schizophrenic and a Sadist”

  1. Gandhi bashing seems to have become fashionable among people who abandon their country and go and live in US and Europe. It is very easy to impose your stupid views on the great man and very difficult to actually do even 1% of what he did for the country. So SHUT UP and FUCK OFF.

  2. Gandhi bashing seems to have become fashionable among people who abandon their country and go and live in US and Europe. It is very easy to impose your stupid views on the great man and very difficult to actually do even 1% of what he did for the country. So SHUT UP and FUCK OFF.

  3. Kind of agreed on the first comment.
    Just make a serious attempt to list out things you did for your country.
    Can you?

    List out things you did for humanity.
    Can you?

    If nothing else, list out thing you did for your own self-search.
    Can you?

    Writing blog is as easy as it is for dog to bark.

    Creating views ( and so called perspectives) is as easy as teaching primary level students.

    Come out of this deceiving, self promoting, disguised mask you are wearing and look, there is so many things you can do other then giving your stupid views.

    Do something, prove something, live experimental life and then you will see there is no need of giving views or perspectives or opinions on anything.

    You will see what ever has happened in past, what ever is happening in present is just 100% perfect for the time during which it is happening.

    For me, Gandhi is neither God nor a saint.

    For me, Gandhi = a great excremental life.

    What to learn from him?
    – not what he did & not how he did.

    We should learn from him to create our own experimental life.
    When we die, at least we can say, I lived a life as an “Experiment of truth”

    Gandhi was wrong, Gandhi was right….. these are all kid’s talk

  4. Dear Anonymous friend of mine – let us understand what we are trying to say here….

    Are you worried about the fact that I write… or what I write? And if it is the latter, then is your problem that I write that YOU don’t agree with?

    There are many ways to bring about change in the world. Not that from a spiritual perspective, this change means much. But if change has to be brought then I am convinced that thinking and thought of any generation has to be challenged.

    For me Vedanta remains the highest mankind’s thinking ever reached. You could have another view, but this is mine… and as much as you want others to respect your view, you will have to respect mine as well. To me, Vedantic luminaries show that challenging every authority… no matter how high it is.. how reverent it is, is THE sine qua non of spiritual growth.

    For example, in Gita, Krishna had asked Arjun to pick up his arms in the first chapter. Yet, he was questioned relentlessly by Arjun. IN fact in the 4th chapter (1st verse) he challenges Krishna to prove what he is saying is true. It wasn’t until the 12th chapter that Arjun says for the FIRST TIME in the whole conversation, that NOW I understand and agree with you.

    So, no matter who you are… even if you are God incarnate (at least in the observer’s view) ….. you cannot simply hide behind the veneer of “Greatness”. Everyone has to PROVE himself.. and answer to.

    So, I see nothing wrong in questioning Gandhi. I have read Indian history in a VERY detailed manner. And I am convinced – given my own reflection – that Gandhi failed an entire generation. That is MY view. You may have yours. And I respect that view. Similarly, I hope you will have the humility to.. One, respect that there are people who have different views, … . and Second, have the sagacity (given your high sounding moralistic homilies you have come up with) to at the very least, look at historical figures AS THEY WERE! And not from their PR-enhanced personalities.

  5. Given how tolerant YOU have been of opposing views, your reply to your friend is hilarious.

    What about your response to another blogger by the name IndianAbroad? You conveniently and shamelessly marked his/her comments as SPAM simply because you did not agree with them and did not have any answers to them.

    I am sure you will not hesitate to delete this comment and/or mark it as SPAM too but at some point in your life, you should introspect and learn to treat opposing views with respect.

  6. Kind of agreed on the first comment.
    Just make a serious attempt to list out things you did for your country.
    Can you?

    List out things you did for humanity.
    Can you?

    If nothing else, list out thing you did for your own self-search.
    Can you?

    Writing blog is as easy as it is for dog to bark.

    Creating views ( and so called perspectives) is as easy as teaching primary level students.

    Come out of this deceiving, self promoting, disguised mask you are wearing and look, there is so many things you can do other then giving your stupid views.

    Do something, prove something, live experimental life and then you will see there is no need of giving views or perspectives or opinions on anything.

    You will see what ever has happened in past, what ever is happening in present is just 100% perfect for the time during which it is happening.

    For me, Gandhi is neither God nor a saint.

    For me, Gandhi = a great excremental life.

    What to learn from him?
    – not what he did & not how he did.

    We should learn from him to create our own experimental life.
    When we die, at least we can say, I lived a life as an “Experiment of truth”

    Gandhi was wrong, Gandhi was right….. these are all kid’s talk

  7. Dear Anonymous friend of mine – let us understand what we are trying to say here….

    Are you worried about the fact that I write… or what I write? And if it is the latter, then is your problem that I write that YOU don’t agree with?

    There are many ways to bring about change in the world. Not that from a spiritual perspective, this change means much. But if change has to be brought then I am convinced that thinking and thought of any generation has to be challenged.

    For me Vedanta remains the highest mankind’s thinking ever reached. You could have another view, but this is mine… and as much as you want others to respect your view, you will have to respect mine as well. To me, Vedantic luminaries show that challenging every authority… no matter how high it is.. how reverent it is, is THE sine qua non of spiritual growth.

    For example, in Gita, Krishna had asked Arjun to pick up his arms in the first chapter. Yet, he was questioned relentlessly by Arjun. IN fact in the 4th chapter (1st verse) he challenges Krishna to prove what he is saying is true. It wasn’t until the 12th chapter that Arjun says for the FIRST TIME in the whole conversation, that NOW I understand and agree with you.

    So, no matter who you are… even if you are God incarnate (at least in the observer’s view) ….. you cannot simply hide behind the veneer of “Greatness”. Everyone has to PROVE himself.. and answer to.

    So, I see nothing wrong in questioning Gandhi. I have read Indian history in a VERY detailed manner. And I am convinced – given my own reflection – that Gandhi failed an entire generation. That is MY view. You may have yours. And I respect that view. Similarly, I hope you will have the humility to.. One, respect that there are people who have different views, … . and Second, have the sagacity (given your high sounding moralistic homilies you have come up with) to at the very least, look at historical figures AS THEY WERE! And not from their PR-enhanced personalities.

  8. It will be better, whoever you are, to start being a bit honest to your own self. You have tried every way to come on this site and simply rant without any substantive argument except abusing me.. as you again demonstrated on the first comment on this thread! 🙂

    How do I know that you are IndianAbroad? Because except for ME (the admin) NO ONE else could know that the comments were made by “IndianAbroad” – because his/her “name” appeared as “ANONYMOUS” on the site for general readers!! Only I knew the email address which gave out the name! LOL.. so there you go!

    The reason I barred you when you kept trying surreptitiously to sneak in to air more of your rants is because of what it has been – abuses, rants and no substance in it.

    It was pretty obvious that you are not here for any discussion or civilized debate. You are here to abuse, push your agenda and simply shout. You have a lot of places where a person like you will be welcome.. go there… not drishtikone!

    Finally, as the editor of this site, I do reserve the right to make sure what should or should NOT be published on this site. Leftist propaganda is OUT! So nice try and although I admire your persistence and single-minded devotion to hitting thinking that you hate.. I am not going to oblige you further.

    So, YES, unless you have something substantive to say next time.. your comment will be out of the door.. whether you call yourself “IndianAbroad”, anonymous, my friend.. or whatever!

  9. Given how tolerant YOU have been of opposing views, your reply to your friend is hilarious.

    What about your response to another blogger by the name IndianAbroad? You conveniently and shamelessly marked his/her comments as SPAM simply because you did not agree with them and did not have any answers to them.

    I am sure you will not hesitate to delete this comment and/or mark it as SPAM too but at some point in your life, you should introspect and learn to treat opposing views with respect.

  10. It will be better, whoever you are, to start being a bit honest to your own self. You have tried every way to come on this site and simply rant without any substantive argument except abusing me.. as you again demonstrated on the first comment on this thread! 🙂

    How do I know that you are IndianAbroad? Because except for ME (the admin) NO ONE else could know that the comments were made by “IndianAbroad” – because his/her “name” appeared as “ANONYMOUS” on the site for general readers!! Only I knew the email address which gave out the name! LOL.. so there you go!

    The reason I barred you when you kept trying surreptitiously to sneak in to air more of your rants is because of what it has been – abuses, rants and no substance in it.

    It was pretty obvious that you are not here for any discussion or civilized debate. You are here to abuse, push your agenda and simply shout. You have a lot of places where a person like you will be welcome.. go there… not drishtikone!

    Finally, as the editor of this site, I do reserve the right to make sure what should or should NOT be published on this site. Leftist propaganda is OUT! So nice try and although I admire your persistence and single-minded devotion to hitting thinking that you hate.. I am not going to oblige you further.

    So, YES, unless you have something substantive to say next time.. your comment will be out of the door.. whether you call yourself “IndianAbroad”, anonymous, my friend.. or whatever!

  11. 1. Since you are so smart, I am surprised you think “your friend” was me as well. Do a simple IP check and you will know…

    2. The comment which you deleted actually had links to other media sites which opposed your opinion. So don’t pretend that you deleted them for abusive content.

    3. If you want to keep the sham of having a meaningful argument on this blog, bring back the links that I had posted and then we can continue discussing. And please, apply your rules to yourself too. You were the one who started the abusive and insulting tone

  12. 1. Hahahaha Chor di daari mein tinka!! One can change his/her IP address by going to a friend’s place and posting from there. So, I don’t care about that. You know what you are doing. So, lets just leave it at that.

    2. My policy is very clear – no spam is allowed. If someone fills a comment up with totally irrelevant links or abuses.. then that is SPAM and it will be out of the door. If one is talking of Apple growing in a foreign country and someone keeps posting links on how sauces are made in his village.. then that is SPAM. Stick to the topic! If you have nothing to add.. that’s fine. But totally irrelevant links just for the heck of it will be OUT OF THE DOOR!

    3. Refer to #2. Out means OUT!

  13. 1. Since you are so smart, I am surprised you think “your friend” was me as well. Do a simple IP check and you will know…

    2. The comment which you deleted actually had links to other media sites which opposed your opinion. So don’t pretend that you deleted them for abusive content.

    3. If you want to keep the sham of having a meaningful argument on this blog, bring back the links that I had posted and then we can continue discussing. And please, apply your rules to yourself too. You were the one who started the abusive and insulting tone

  14. 1. Hahaha… don’t give yourself so much importance, I am not going to run around town just to post here. Anyway, it’s up to you to believe what you want to believe. If you want to continue living in your make-believe world where you are right on everything and every opposing view is wrong, be my guest.

    2.&3. YOU WISH your policy was clear. YOU asked me to back my statements with references. I did that and posted links from several reputed sites and when you couldn’t think of any reasonable reply, you chose to delete the post. So, unless your policy is, “if you don’t agree with my views, I will consider your post SPAM and delete it”, you cannot justify your shameful action.

  15. 1. Hahahaha Chor di daari mein tinka!! One can change his/her IP address by going to a friend’s place and posting from there. So, I don’t care about that. You know what you are doing. So, lets just leave it at that.

    2. My policy is very clear – no spam is allowed. If someone fills a comment up with totally irrelevant links or abuses.. then that is SPAM and it will be out of the door. If one is talking of Apple growing in a foreign country and someone keeps posting links on how sauces are made in his village.. then that is SPAM. Stick to the topic! If you have nothing to add.. that’s fine. But totally irrelevant links just for the heck of it will be OUT OF THE DOOR!

    3. Refer to #2. Out means OUT!

  16. 1. Hahaha… don’t give yourself so much importance, I am not going to run around town just to post here. Anyway, it’s up to you to believe what you want to believe. If you want to continue living in your make-believe world where you are right on everything and every opposing view is wrong, be my guest.

    2.&3. YOU WISH your policy was clear. YOU asked me to back my statements with references. I did that and posted links from several reputed sites and when you couldn’t think of any reasonable reply, you chose to delete the post. So, unless your policy is, “if you don’t agree with my views, I will consider your post SPAM and delete it”, you cannot justify your shameful action.

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