An Indian Civilizational Perspective

Aryan Invasion Theory is a Myth: large Harvard study

I still remember so much of hue and cry was made by the so-called secular fraternity in India on (i) why the Aryan Invasion Theory was true and (ii) anyone criticizing was doing so out of “inferiority complex” and with “Hindu superiority” leanings.  As if looking for a factual explanation of history is a crime!  The debate in Indian sociology and history is so perverse that its considered an Intellectual greatness to peddle half truths and a Gross mistake to poke questions at those half-truths whose only claim to fame is their repetition, not their veracity!  Now, a study by Harvard nails the lie that Indian historians have so proudly peddled and guarded with the barbed wires of elitist perversion.

A pathbreaking study by Harvard and indigenous researchers on ancestral Indian populations says there is a genetic relationship between all Indians and more importantly, the hitherto believed “fact” that Aryans and Dravidians signify the ancestry of north and south Indians might after all, be a myth.

The study was extensive and scientific in its scope and cannot be easily refuted by cute rhetorics anymore!

The study analysed 500,000 genetic markers across the genomes of 132 individuals from 25 diverse groups from 13 states. All the individuals were from six-language families and traditionally “upper” and “lower” castes and tribal groups. “The genetics proves that castes grew directly out of tribe-like organizations during the formation of the Indian society,” the study said. Thangarajan noted that it was impossible to distinguish between castes and tribes since their genetics proved they were not systematically different.

I am sure that the die hard Secular Perverts in India and their foreign sympathizers will not stop from their nonsensical rhetoric…. but I guess they should be challenged to bring out some solid proof instead of folk-lores, stories and rhetoric. 

Its time to rewrite the Indian History books!  And this time, it should be based on scientifically established history and not fictionalized one.  Those stories were interesting… but no more.

Reference Links:
1.  Aryan-Dravidian divide a myth: Study – India – NEWS – The Times of India

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    About a 100 years Sri Aurobindo derived the same conclusions based on linguistics. While we was from Bengal, he had closely studied Tamil and Vedic sanskrit. He wrote that the roots of Tamil and Sanskrit (on which the so called non-Dravidian languages were based) were common.

    About 150 years back, Swami Dayanand mentioned in his book ‘Satyarth Prakash’ (Illumination of truth) that the people of India were of the one same race and that there was no settlement of India from any far away land. He also said that the first inhabitants of India earlier populated Tibet.
    In Sanskrit literature the word Arya is a quality of nobility, not a term that refers to any race.

    The British were the first proponents of the idea of an ‘Aryan’ race and the conjecture that an ‘Aryan’ race invaded and settled north India. There never was any Archeological or linguistic evidence to support that theory. People just bought the conjecture for its face value.

    On a side note, there is a great program that was shown on PBS called the Journey of Man which is a genetic examination of human migration across the globe. I think this link points to the same program online:

  17. Prem says

    About a 100 years Sri Aurobindo derived the same conclusions based on linguistics. While we was from Bengal, he had closely studied Tamil and Vedic sanskrit. He wrote that the roots of Tamil and Sanskrit (on which the so called non-Dravidian languages were based) were common.

    About 150 years back, Swami Dayanand mentioned in his book ‘Satyarth Prakash’ (Illumination of truth) that the people of India were of the one same race and that there was no settlement of India from any far away land. He also said that the first inhabitants of India earlier populated Tibet.
    In Sanskrit literature the word Arya is a quality of nobility, not a term that refers to any race.

    The British were the first proponents of the idea of an ‘Aryan’ race and the conjecture that an ‘Aryan’ race invaded and settled north India. There never was any Archeological or linguistic evidence to support that theory. People just bought the conjecture for its face value.

    On a side note, there is a great program that was shown on PBS called the Journey of Man which is a genetic examination of human migration across the globe. I think this link points to the same program online: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV6A8oGtPc4

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  22. Anonymous says

    f the britishers. they messed our heads with this mumbo jumbo.

  23. Anonymous says

    The AIT has already been abandoned by Romila Thapar, Witzel and others — let’s not flog a dead horse .. there is no living mainstream scholar who beleives in the AIT anymore

    Those who claim that the Indus was Vedic are politically motivated.. so are those who support the Dravidian hypothesis

    1. Sanskrit was a liturgical language not the language of the masses
    2. The IVC originated in Baluchistan – Vedic culture originated in the Vedic homeland
    3. IVC was based on contacts with Mesopotamia – Vedic culture was not
    4. We have to account for all aspects of Hinduism not Vedism alone

    the transfer of power happened through a series of acculturations . There are very detailed acculturation models proposed by the Allchins, Jim Shaffer. I have proposed a 150 page acculturation model -posted above.

    While most of those who beleive in the VIT are innocent, this is a part of the BJP’s greater plan to eliminate muslims and christians. As Indians lets be wary and keep the larger interests of the nation in mind

    Sujay Rao Mandavilli

    Here is the complete , comprehensive solution to the so-called Aryan problem
    Part one is a high level overview. Part two is much more interesting
    This is one of the longest research papers published in a peer-reviewed journal since independance.
    Part two is the most important

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/2710

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/2710

    Mirror:

    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/25

    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/25
    Links to the journal
    Part one http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/pa
    Part Two http://ssrn.com/abstract=15418

    SUJAY RAO MANDAVILLI

  24. Anonymous says

    The AIT has already been abandoned by Romila Thapar, Witzel and others — let’s not flog a dead horse .. there is no living mainstream scholar who beleives in the AIT anymore

    Those who claim that the Indus was Vedic are politically motivated.. so are those who support the Dravidian hypothesis

    1. Sanskrit was a liturgical language not the language of the masses
    2. The IVC originated in Baluchistan – Vedic culture originated in the Vedic homeland
    3. IVC was based on contacts with Mesopotamia – Vedic culture was not
    4. We have to account for all aspects of Hinduism not Vedism alone

    the transfer of power happened through a series of acculturations . There are very detailed acculturation models proposed by the Allchins, Jim Shaffer. I have proposed a 150 page acculturation model -posted above.

    While most of those who beleive in the VIT are innocent, this is a part of the BJP’s greater plan to eliminate muslims and christians. As Indians lets be wary and keep the larger interests of the nation in mind

    Sujay Rao Mandavilli

    Here is the complete , comprehensive solution to the so-called Aryan problem
    Part one is a high level overview. Part two is much more interesting
    This is one of the longest research papers published in a peer-reviewed journal since independance.
    Part two is the most important

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/27103044/Sujay-NPAP-Part-One

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/27105677/Sujay-Npap-Part-Two

    Mirror:

    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/25880426/Sujay-NPAP-Part-One

    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/25865304/SUJAY-NPAP-Part-Two
    Links to the journal
    Part one http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1324506
    Part Two http://ssrn.com/abstract=1541822

    SUJAY RAO MANDAVILLI

  25. Anonymous says

    Even if a small linguistic component is added – rebus principle or punning (Witzel Kyoto, 2009 or Sproat in his presentations) or acriphony is added, it qualifies for full literacy. I assume some ’sound coding’ would have been useful to them atleast on some occasions.. the longest seal is 17 characters non-analomous and 26 characters analomous. I have never said that what Farmer is saying is necessarily fully wrong, but even Parpola has been reading them mostly as logograms with a linguistic component. So how much of what Farmer is saying is new apart from the fact that he popularized the idea? These men have been saying almost the same thing and fighting with each other?Till 2900 BC Egypt and Mesopotamia were considered proto-literate even if their texts are shorter(not non-literate!!!!)- even if there is small difference between the 2 maybe the Indus system was more expressive than Egyptian proto-literate- because conditional entropy, order of signs, combinations probably did play a major role in meaning in the Indus script (Korvink). ????Terminologies pertaining to literacy cannot be changed unless all scholars agree – and any demands to change terminology must be met with suspicion, naturally. Only a very small portion of the IVC has been excavated, you know, 5% maybe! Even Farmer agrees “Judging from modern examples and research in the linguistic history of South Asia, the Indus Valley was probably intensely multi linguistic throughout its history. This may have provided the Indus emblem system with an advantage over ordinary writing as a means of providing the civilization with social cohesion. The fact that the majority of inscriptions rely on a surprisingly small core of symbols suggests that the meaning of Indus signs could have potentially been known by almost or all (ALL!!) of the population, resulting in a pervasive quasiliteracy far beyond that achieved in Mesopotamia or Egypt.” No other civlization mass produced writing or (”writing”!!). Where else did they have public signboards then apart from the Indus?
    I can instead cite Farmer and declare it the most literate civilization on erth. And he and I could be saying the same thing. I say such terms must be avoided. if they had learned how to use the rebus principle , they would have used it whenever the need arose. Seal writing is always short . Sproat’s smoking gun cannot be used to test the stability or the complexity of the system. It has weaknesses. It cannot also be used to prove that the Indus script didn’t have a linguistic component.

    Making fun of ancient people is absolutely disgraceful.It is in poor taste~!!!!

    I hope more Indians take up research. people are taking us for a ride.

    Sujay Rao Mandavilli

  26. Anonymous says

    Even if a small linguistic component is added – rebus principle or punning (Witzel Kyoto, 2009 or Sproat in his presentations) or acriphony is added, it qualifies for full literacy. I assume some ’sound coding’ would have been useful to them atleast on some occasions.. the longest seal is 17 characters non-analomous and 26 characters analomous. I have never said that what Farmer is saying is necessarily fully wrong, but even Parpola has been reading them mostly as logograms with a linguistic component. So how much of what Farmer is saying is new apart from the fact that he popularized the idea? These men have been saying almost the same thing and fighting with each other?Till 2900 BC Egypt and Mesopotamia were considered proto-literate even if their texts are shorter(not non-literate!!!!)- even if there is small difference between the 2 maybe the Indus system was more expressive than Egyptian proto-literate- because conditional entropy, order of signs, combinations probably did play a major role in meaning in the Indus script (Korvink). ????Terminologies pertaining to literacy cannot be changed unless all scholars agree – and any demands to change terminology must be met with suspicion, naturally. Only a very small portion of the IVC has been excavated, you know, 5% maybe! Even Farmer agrees “Judging from modern examples and research in the linguistic history of South Asia, the Indus Valley was probably intensely multi linguistic throughout its history. This may have provided the Indus emblem system with an advantage over ordinary writing as a means of providing the civilization with social cohesion. The fact that the majority of inscriptions rely on a surprisingly small core of symbols suggests that the meaning of Indus signs could have potentially been known by almost or all (ALL!!) of the population, resulting in a pervasive quasiliteracy far beyond that achieved in Mesopotamia or Egypt.” No other civlization mass produced writing or (”writing”!!). Where else did they have public signboards then apart from the Indus?
    I can instead cite Farmer and declare it the most literate civilization on erth. And he and I could be saying the same thing. I say such terms must be avoided. if they had learned how to use the rebus principle , they would have used it whenever the need arose. Seal writing is always short . Sproat’s smoking gun cannot be used to test the stability or the complexity of the system. It has weaknesses. It cannot also be used to prove that the Indus script didn’t have a linguistic component.

    Making fun of ancient people is absolutely disgraceful.It is in poor taste~!!!!

    I hope more Indians take up research. people are taking us for a ride.

    Sujay Rao Mandavilli

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